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CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
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| | Posted by | TheBlueRaja (DH New User
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Hi All, I was just flicking through the newsletter when i found the section regarding the new catch-all feature - basically they say:-
In reply to:
Starting right now, all your email addresses have a sneaky new feature:
Built-in catchalls!
How does it work? It's easy! For every email address we host you can add a + sign and then ANYTHING before the @, and it'll go to the same place.
So, if you have an email address like say:
josh@ilovemoneyandbunnies.com
The following addresses now all go to the same place:
josh+ferrets@ilovemoneyandbunnies.com josh+jones@ilovemoneyandbunnies.com josh+dreamhost_spams_dont_they@ilovemoneyandbunnies.com
But.... It dosent seem to work on my domain - i send a mail to me+test@mydomain.co.uk and i get an undeliverable message back.
Any Ideas?
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: TheBlueRaja]
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| | Posted by | rlparker (DH DreamNinja) | | Posted on | 10/04/06 01:48 AM |
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I just tried it with one of my .com domains and it worked as advertised. Strange that it didn't work for you.
--rlparker
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: TheBlueRaja]
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| | Posted by | norm1037 (DH DreamNinja) | | Posted on | 10/04/06 02:58 AM |
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Certainly seems to be working here as well. Check that your me@mydomain.co.uk does actually exist (i.e. not a newly created email address) and already accepts mail and that me+test@mydomain.co.uk isn't in your delete list.
Make sure you are using the plus sign normally over the equals symbol.
Check that your email client or isp are not stripping out the '+' to "help" you.
-- Norm
Opinions are my own views, not DreamHosts'. I am NOT a DreamHost employee OK!! 
You act on my advice at your own risk!
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: rlparker]
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| | Posted by | vkimball (DH Familiar) | | Posted on | 10/04/06 02:59 AM |
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Doesn't work for me either. Gets a "user unknown" message. :-(
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: vkimball]
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| | Posted by | norm1037 (DH DreamNinja) | | Posted on | 10/04/06 03:00 AM |
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Have you tried a test from the DreamHost ControlPanel Webmail to see if that works?
-- Norm
Opinions are my own views, not DreamHosts'. I am NOT a DreamHost employee OK!! 
You act on my advice at your own risk!
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: norm1037]
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| | Posted by | vkimball (DH Familiar) | | Posted on | 10/04/06 03:10 AM |
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It works only when I send from a Dreamhost mail account, not from an external email system like Google Mail or Comcast.
External email systems give me a "recipient address rejected: user unknown" error.
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: vkimball]
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| | Posted by | norm1037 (DH DreamNinja) | | Posted on | 10/04/06 03:52 AM |
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Whilst plus tagging ( address@example.com) is permitted under RFC notes there are still some companies whose servers will strip out the plus sign. (no I do not know which companies just that there may be some).
Try various clients just to make sure it is working okay. You could also try "me test"@example.com through Comcast to see if that works.
I have just tried Google Mail with and without quotes and the mail is rejected. So it looks like Google Mail causes a problem.
Later...
Oh, plus tagging does work from Google Mail. I just did a dyslexic on my email address 
-- Norm
Opinions are my own views, not DreamHosts'. I am NOT a DreamHost employee OK!! 
You act on my advice at your own risk!
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: norm1037]
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| | Posted by | vkimball (DH Familiar) | | Posted on | 10/04/06 04:22 AM |
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Tagged addresses don't work from Google Mail to my domain.
"vince+save"@vkimball.com
Technical details of permanent failure: PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 550 <vince+save@vkimball.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown.
If I use quotes or not, same message.
Also with Comcast:
"vince+save"@vkimball.com
Technical details of permanent failure: PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 550 <vince+save@vkimball.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown.
With or without quotes, same error.
Maybe some of Dreamhost's email servers haven't been updated yet?
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: vkimball]
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| | Posted by | norm1037 (DH DreamNinja) | | Posted on | 10/04/06 05:24 AM |
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That was the same error I had when I made my typo. Make sure that you can send email to vince@vkimball.com okay from Google Mail first.
-- Norm
Opinions are my own views, not DreamHosts'. I am NOT a DreamHost employee OK!! 
You act on my advice at your own risk!
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: norm1037]
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| | Posted by | vkimball (DH Familiar) | | Posted on | 10/04/06 11:44 AM |
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vince@vkimball.com works from Google Mail, but vince+save@vkimball.com doesn't.
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: TheBlueRaja]
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| | Posted by | sloecoach (DH New User
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Messages sent from my webmail get this reply, I get a similar reply from yahoo's mail servers.
This is the Postfix program at host webmail2.sd.dreamhost.com.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below.
The Postfix program
: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: vkimball]
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| | Posted by | gordaen (DH Enthusiast) | | Posted on | 10/04/06 02:54 PM |
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I've got the same results: not working from gmail
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
gordaen+notspam@quittryingtograbmyemailaddressyouspambots.com
Technical details of permanent failure: PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 550 <gordaen+notspam@seriouslyjuststop.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown.
I sent one from my main webmail account to the SAME account but with "+wtf" after the username... The message hasn't been delivered or returned.
Check out Gordaen's Knowledge, the blog, and the MR2 page.
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: TheBlueRaja]
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| | Posted by | kchrist (DH Grizzled Veteran) | | Posted on | 10/04/06 03:07 PM |
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This wasn't working for my primary address either so I did a little experimenting and think I've narrowed down the source of the problem to the junk filter.
Plus-addressing works with addresses at domains not using the filter, but these messages consistently bounce when sent to addresses at filtered domains. Only one person in this thread has mentioned his domain name, but I see that that one is filtered as well.
Anyone else see similar results on filtered and non-filtered domains?
-- If you want useful replies, ask smart questions.
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: kchrist]
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| | Posted by | rlparker (DH DreamNinja) | | Posted on | 10/04/06 03:13 PM |
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My original test was done on a non-filtered domain, and it worked fine. I just went back and sent to a "filtered" domain, and received a bounce. I think you have narrowed it down!
Additional: I also tried it with multiple sending domains, including gmail, with the same results - the mail is delivered to a non-filtered domain, and bounced by a "filtered" domain.
--rlparker
Edited by rlparker on 10/04/06 03:17 PM (server time).
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: kchrist]
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| | Posted by | gordaen (DH Enthusiast) | | Posted on | 10/04/06 03:47 PM |
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In reply to:
This is the Postfix program at host webmail3.sd.dreamhost.com.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below.
The Postfix program
<gordaen+wtf@blah.com>: host fltr-in3.mail.dreamhost.com[66.33.206.232] said: 550 <gordaen+wtf@blah.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown.
Yeah, mine is filtered and the above is an attempt to send from gordaen@ to gordaen+wtf@ (same account) which failed.
Check out Gordaen's Knowledge, the blog, and the MR2 page.
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: vkimball]
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| | Posted by | lrosenstein (DH Regular) | | Posted on | 10/04/06 04:56 PM |
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Worked for me. I'm not using DH's spam filtering; maybe that's the difference.
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Posting Your Email Address Opens Up a World of Grief & Ads
[re: norm1037]
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| | Posted by | Christoph (DH Familiar) | | Posted on | 10/04/06 08:25 PM |
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Word of advice... unless you want to be deluged with spam, DO NOT post your actual email address that you use on any forum.
It will get harvested.
Even trying to "mung" it by going myname[at]REMOVETHISPART example (dot) com, etc., will still be picked up by a powerful spam harvester.
Better solutions are here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: lrosenstein]
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| | Posted by | dallas (DreamHost Honcho!) | | Posted on | 10/05/06 00:39 AM |
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Sorry everyone! As you have figured out some of our email servers had not yet been updated, notably the junkmail servers. It should now work for all addresses with or without the junkmail filter enabled.
- Dallas - DreamHost Head Honcho/Founder
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Re: CatchAlls as described in Newsletter
[re: dallas]
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| | Posted by | TheBlueRaja (DH New User
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Confirmed, I was using a filtered domain, yesterday it didn't work, today it did - thanks for clearing this up and all your help guys.
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Re: Posting Your Email Address Opens Up a World of Grief & Ads
[re: Christoph]
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| | Posted by | norm1037 (DH DreamNinja) | | Posted on | 10/05/06 03:28 AM |
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Very true of course.
I just wonder about plus tagging now. As useful as it is it seems to have introduced some new dangers and there should be a way to turn it off (unless there is) per email address.
Having persevered for some months to remove the catch-all feature out of my domains it has virtually been restored again now to every domain email address. All I can do is block each name as it gets spammed unless I want to permanently remove the email address that is before the plus tag part.
If it were selectable when an email address was created I could then also create a throwaway alias to use with my plus tagging feature. So that if and when a spammer decided to just add a serially increasing number as the tag I could remove the alias.
I am not trying to be negative here by the way as I think DreamHost are serving their customers very well with all the new features.
But I have some small concerns. (Yes I know, that is an old joke!)
-- Norm
Opinions are my own views, not DreamHosts'. I am NOT a DreamHost employee OK!! 
You act on my advice at your own risk!
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