Is anyone still having problems?

Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: 614mike
Posted on: 2006-07-24 11:21:00

I know we all went through issues the last week, but I still am having loading problems on my site as well as other problems. My site 614design.com loads very slowly or loads everything except the flash files (which are just small slideshows). Also when I try to use webmail it just freezes and then goes to a page that says imap connection dropped. I use macmail as my mail client and it logs me out and ask for my password every 5-10 minutes or so. I asked DH to run a test and they said everything seemd to be OK. My site is just an online portfolio, but I get alot of hits from online advertising, and if my site is dead I lose potential money, which I am sure alot of you do too. Any ideas or similar problems? Thanks.
Update: I tried to edit this message to get it more clear of what was going on and it took me 10 attempts....forum issues too?
Edited by 614mike on 07/24/06 11:39 AM (server time).

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: billhenderson
Posted on: 2006-07-24 11:29:00

My site has been totally useless today. Dreamhost is not responding to my support requests.

It's been 9 straight days that I've had degraded or no performance on my site and it's driving me insane!

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Raz2133
Posted on: 2006-07-24 11:42:00

Things seem to have returned to almost normal for me. My sites are loading fine ('Bixel' server) and email is working (I use POP3).

However, the panel still seems very slow at times and the constant 'Internal Server Errors' on this forum are driving me insane!

Mark

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: lesbessant
Posted on: 2006-07-24 12:11:00

Yeah, my sites are slower than a very slow thing that's taking a break. Slow web, slower than normal uploads, even using the command line seems a lot slower than normal.

And the first time I tried to preview that, I got a generic 500 server error...

Les Bessant
Losing it[1]

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: badMike
Posted on: 2006-07-24 12:18:00

My sites seem to be working fine, but I'm still having trouble setting up new email accounts, which I desperately need. A note went out saying all was fine with email again, but I'm tearing my hair out.

Support tickets have been fluctuating between 970-1000 since last night, so I guess lots of other people are having trouble and no significant advancements on catching up with the tickets. Everytime I've had one "solved" by Dreamhost or removed one from the list myself, I've added another one right back in within minutes.

Also, everytime I try to post here I get internal server errors, so that is maddening, too.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: am9905d
Posted on: 2006-07-24 12:41:00

All my sites where down again today so I filled a network problem report. After about an hour they were back up but they only stayed up for about half an hour and now they are down again.

Dreamhost is killing my sites the last ten days.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: billhenderson
Posted on: 2006-07-24 12:43:00

Me too - what machine are you on? My sites on are 'happy'

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: westier
Posted on: 2006-07-24 13:00:00

Yes - apart from continual 'Internal Server Errors' since I first registered with this Forum today!

I have contacted Support because I can (albeit intermittently) see both my Dreambooks
http://books.dreambook.com/westier/rehoming.html and http://books.dreambook.com/westier/rehoming2.html
but my Control Panel "My Book" page tells me "You currently do not have any guestbooks". This is rubbish of course, but it does mean that, without the links to take me into my Books, I cannot edit them at all!

No reply from Support whatsoever.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: am9905d
Posted on: 2006-07-24 13:30:00

No not on "happy", it seems to be a general problem, even dreamhoststatus.com is now down.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: 614mike
Posted on: 2006-07-24 13:49:00

Is there an alternative to squirrel mail to check your email from another computer than your own? By the way my site and email have gotten steadily worse since my original post.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Fotog Ink
Posted on: 2006-07-24 14:00:00

My website www.fotogink.com has been down almost for a week as well ( given sparse log ins) and I cannot load any pictures to my galleries due to it.
Unfortunatley my web guy left, and I have very little idea of what to do...when it goes down. It's taking forever to refresh, log in, or let others browse ,and yeah - it's hurting my income big time. Does anyone know WHY it's so slow ?

www.fotogink.com
Fotog Ink Rock PhotographyEdited by Fotog Ink on 07/24/06 02:01 PM (server time).

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Jewels
Posted on: 2006-07-24 14:04:00

I'm finding FTP to be very slow. That's the only problem I've had throughout the recent trouble.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: howler358
Posted on: 2006-07-24 16:03:00

Still having some slow access times for my sites, but at least e-mail has stayed up all day.

Law can be practiced in a wetsuit.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: 614mike
Posted on: 2006-07-24 16:07:00

I can check my email 1 out of 10 times I try....you should feel priveleged.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: pstudier
Posted on: 2006-07-24 16:18:00

IMHO, the worst thing is that Dreamhost has removed the "Contact Technical Support" option from the "Support" tab. One used to be able to fill out a detailed form to report a problem, and get a trouble ticket number, and get an email response. I guess that they are too busy to keep up with this with all their recent problems.



Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: forgotusername
Posted on: 2006-07-24 16:32:00

I guess for general questions you email them through the contact us area. and maybe they feel we should be using the "is there a system wide problem area" which, doesn't always work.!!

They definitely need a way for us to contact them...

After looking at the support area again, I noticed...
Do not use this form for problems likely only affecting you! Use this one.

which takes you to the area where the contact support form used to be. maybe it's broken too.
Edited by forgotusername on 07/24/06 04:35 PM (server time).

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: rlparker
Posted on: 2006-07-24 16:38:00

In reply to:

Dreamhost has removed the "Contact Technical Support" option from the "Support" tab


This just is not true, and I've no idea what you are referring to with that statement. I don't know what "support" *tab* you are tallking about. The "Support" *link* in the top menu of the dreamhost home page still has a link to the control panel (where support ticket - presumably the "detailed form" you referred to later in your post) is located.

From the Control Panel , the "Support" menu item still has "Contact Support" on it, and if you click it you have many support options. The *last one* of which (presently indicated by a link in the "Critical Announcement" takes you to the Support Request Form.

Dreamhost embeds this in the "Critical Announcemnt" when there is ongoing major system-wide issues, *presumably* to encourage you to evaluate whether a support ticket is really indicated.

The "Form" is still there; but you *do* have to read the page that is presented when you enter "Contact Support" ion the COntrol Panel to find it ;-)

--rlparker

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: rlparker
Posted on: 2006-07-24 16:45:00

There is *still* a way to contact them, and it uses the same form as it has for a long time now. You get to the "form" by clicking "Contact Support" from the Support->Contact Support menu within the Control Panel.

Once there, you have to *read the whole page*. Because of the recent widespread problems, they point you to a "Critical Announcement" after displaying other support contact tools (System wide outages, etc) before offering the form. This seems to me to be highly reasonable, as there is *no need* for *each user* to submit a support ticket, when the whole network is "borked".

Alternatively, click the "use this one" link you referred to and it takes you the "Critical Announcement", where the link to the "Form" is present as "Still need to submit a support request? Click here! ". It's still there, guys. They just want you to *read the announment* before submitting the ticket.

--rlparker

Edited by rlparker on 07/24/06 04:52 PM (server time).

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: brighthearted
Posted on: 2006-07-24 16:55:00

I'm so glad this topic was created to let me know that I'm not just getting the "short end of the magical DreamHost" stick. All of my DH sites have been crap the past week or so. Going completely offline of and on throughout the day. When they do load, they're at an alltime slow.

I'm on server Doheny FYI.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: rlparker
Posted on: 2006-07-24 17:04:00

Yep, this last 10 days or so has been really bad, on a lot of levels. Some had had it better than others, but *all* have had problems that, in my experience, has *not* been the norm (did you hear your name, Norm?) for Dreamhost.

Some of my sites have been only sporadically and insignificantly impacted while others have been "paws up". If there is good news, it appears my sites are all returning (at different times) to normal, and I finally starting to see some improvement in speed, though there are still MySQL speed issues on some servers. I realize that YMMV, and hope others' site's are also "healing".

--rlparker


Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: austicke
Posted on: 2006-07-24 17:07:00

No problems here atm, thank goodness.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: 614mike
Posted on: 2006-07-24 18:14:00

I forgot to mention I'm on UGH server, which is appropriately named lately.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: mlee
Posted on: 2006-07-24 19:36:00

I'm on quid and hyperion, and everything has been unusable for over a week.

Page loads on quid are now taking anywhere from 30 seconds to 2 minutes.


[quid]$ w
19:23:19 up 1:33, 2 users, load average: 332.68, 236.12, 116.22
USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT


Any recommendations for another host? Media Temple?

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: 614mike
Posted on: 2006-07-24 19:41:00

Blue Host, Dot 5 and Start Logic have the best ratings from what I have seen online...I don't want to switch, I just want my site to work.



Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Raz2133
Posted on: 2006-07-24 20:13:00

In reply to:

I don't want to switch, I just want my site to work.


I don't know how long you've been with DreamHost, but definitely do not take the last 2 weeks or so as an indication of what to expect here.

Yes, things has been terrible during this period, with a large number of sites suffering a multitude of problems. If you have been following the posts on dreamhoststatus.com, you will see that DreamHost has suffered some pretty significant hardware failures, but they have also said that they have learned from this experience and are taking steps to prevent such things from happening in the future.

Overall, my experience with DreamHost has been very positive. To me, the events of the last couple of weeks just highlight how uneventful things normally are here.

Mark

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: mlee
Posted on: 2006-07-24 20:31:00

I've been with DreamHost for a little over a year. I've never been particularly happy with the speed of anything dynamic (mysql/php), however the static pages load very fast. I've worked with support to try to make things faster, but absolutely nothing helped.

I think this is the last straw. Dont get me wrong, I love the features, but over a week of intermittent-ness is more than I can handle.



Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: rlparker
Posted on: 2006-07-24 23:29:00

I can vouch for the continued "borkedness" of Quid...An associate of mine has several sites on that server (one we are *trying* to launch for a Grammy Award winning jazz artist), and it has been, and continues through most of each day, to be completelyt unusable for *anything* other than static html.
Arguuuugh!.......
rlparker

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: manateemedia
Posted on: 2006-07-25 00:19:00

I'm also glad this thread has been started. I just checked my blogs and they all had a mysql error and would not load at all.

This is very depressing as I had high hopes when I switched to dreamhost...and now I wonder if it is a good move? Is this typical of dreamhost? I believe they are in California, so I wonder if this is related to the outages that Yahoo, MySpace, etc. had?



Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: manateemedia
Posted on: 2006-07-25 00:27:00

I just found a couple links, perhaps everyone already knows about them. But, it does look like this is all due to the record high temps in CA.

http://www.dreamhoststatus.com

http://blog.dreamhost.com

As for email, I have pretty much quit using email@whateveryourdomain.com and use Gmail.

Nothing against dreamhost and their email, I just don't like having an email associated with any of my domains...as usually they will get cluttered with junk mail in the end.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Shonky
Posted on: 2006-07-25 00:47:00

On vine things have been good, has only been down for about 4 hours when DH had the major fault with the filer, apart from that, uptime and speed has been ok.

I may have spoke too soon, will keep an eye on Vine for a little while. Load averages aren't too good right at this minute.

[vine]$ uptime
01:03:18 up 2 days, 7:08, 1 user, load average: 28.27, 15.14, 8.16
[vine]$

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: 614mike
Posted on: 2006-07-25 05:26:00

I've been with DH for about a year and a half....had no real problems, and great tech support when I was putting my site together with little web experience. I'm just going to stick it out, I'm sure they will sort things out. I'm sure if I switched, the next day DH would be up 100% and then I'd have to deal with a new host and possibly new problems.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: mlee
Posted on: 2006-07-25 05:45:00

Last night they moved me off quid and onto franc.

We'll see how this goes. So far, things are working great--although it's still early in the morning, so we'll see once people start waking up and pounding whatever other sites are on the box.

I'd love to stay with DH if they can get all this straightened out, ESPECIALLY THE PHP/MYSQL LOAD TIMES.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: 614mike
Posted on: 2006-07-25 07:21:00

I just went to get a refill of coffee and came back and I had 89 new email messages....they were copies of all the messages I have gotten over the last few days....maybe that's a good sign things are up and running again?


Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: giuseppel
Posted on: 2006-07-25 09:51:00

I can't take this anymore. Everyone I know is leaving DH because of the instability. I just wish we'd get a straight answer up or down if the issues they've had over the past year are going to be fixed.

My business can't handle the email instability.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: cfportaluser
Posted on: 2006-07-25 09:55:00

One of my users email is still very slow and we were only able to get access yesterday. So I'm moving email from dreamhost but will leave the site there. The site on "salt" seems to be fine but the email is probably elsewhere and it has been terrible throughout these problems. This is really too long to wait for email to be fixed.

Although it sez I'm a new user, I've been at dreamhost for over two years.

CFoxgroverEdited by cfportaluser on 07/25/06 09:57 AM (server time).

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: liberalleft
Posted on: 2006-07-25 10:23:00

Amen, brother. I've been with Dreamhost for nearly ten years. I'm very much a long timer.

Up until a couple years back everything rocked. The servers were stable and the tech folks always had a solution. Then things started to get bad. Some downtime here and there, mail problems intermittently, etc.

As we all know reliability spanning the past year has been extremely sporadic, the past couple months have been garbage and the past month has been completely unacceptable. What's more, every response from a support request goes like this:

"We're sorry for the problems. We appreciate your patience. We are working to resolve the problem. Off to compose another apology."

I'm gone. I've set up hosting with another provider who has a track record for being incredibly stable. You can also pick up the phone and call their support team. Phone calls? What's that?

And this other host's fees are the same as Dreamhost except they don't charge a set up fee, even if you're paying month to month. And the feature comparison? Very close. But who uses 20GB of web space anyway? I'm not providing porn. So I'll gladly reduce my disk space to 2GB which is ample for any non-porn website. And I still get my 1TB of bandwidth, all for the same monthly fee.

Anyway, I'm slowly migrating my sites to that new host and will be taking ALL of my clients with me. I have roughly 25 clients on Dreamhost, and we're all leaving. Dreamhost has become the most unreliable host on the internet.

Good bye, Dreamhost. Good luck keeping your customers happy with this horrendous "service."

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: cfportaluser
Posted on: 2006-07-25 10:30:00

liberalleft

You dont have to mention where you're going BUT I'd love to konw where you can find reliable recommendations and reviews of hosting services. With email it's been tough and I have tried many. There is still a level of control at Dreamhost I would need to replicate somewhere else. Before this I was at a typical Cpanel controlled host that simply didn't have what I need. Admittedly a long time ago. Thanks

CFoxgrover

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: manateemedia
Posted on: 2006-07-25 11:00:00

I don't know why so many people rely on email with their domain. You are much better off to have email that doesn't rely on your domain being up. If you ever have to move your domain, your email will be down. Maybe it's just me, but Gmail rocks - over 2gb of space and customers don't care if you are using an email address from your domain or not.

If anyone wants an invite, just let me know.

On a different note - I will confirm that PHP is slower here than other hosts I've been with. I hate to say it, but its true. :(

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: howler358
Posted on: 2006-07-25 12:16:00

Site access times suck badly again this morning, though e-mail appears stable.

I've been with Dreamhost four years now, and don't want to move, but someone (Josh's newsletter due next week?) really needs to explain what's going on to stop the recurrence of these problems.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: westier
Posted on: 2006-07-25 13:22:00

At the end of an email to me, Support once included a promo blurb extolling the virtues of their server system, and would we like to switch our web hosting for Westie ReHoming http://www.westierehoming.me.uk to them for $XXX savings.

What is the point of super savings if you get to experience all the frustration shown in these columns? I'll stick with my current webhost, thank you, a little more expensive but with very little downtime, few outages and great loading times.

DreamBook only for me, I'm afraid - when it gets back online (I received a reply from Support - without posting it to the Status page, they took the Management Server down for repair, and tell me they will "try" to reinstate it by "the end of the week", whenever EXACTLY that might be).

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: beerbelly
Posted on: 2006-07-25 13:28:00

Loading of my sites have been sporadic throughout the day. Actually, I've only been able to load them a handful of times until everything just went to crap about 5 hours ago.

http://www.careercube.net - helping career seekers to solve ther puzzle
http://www.beerbellyblog.com

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: ravenoak
Posted on: 2006-07-25 15:57:00

I'm still having problems too. My uptime has been around 92%, which isn't too horrible for the trouble they're having. My problem is the CRAWLING like a slug FTP, php, sql, and email. It takes forever to upload, download, or even reach a page of mine.

www.savefrystreet.com
www.oaksclass.com
www.kaonevar.com

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: 614mike
Posted on: 2006-07-25 16:00:00

I've been patient, now it's getting to be a little too much. I have been cut out of my email every 10 minutes all day today and my site is not loading.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: jonnyrico04
Posted on: 2006-07-26 07:10:00

werd...past 2-3 weeks its been touch and go...sometimes site speed is ok...but MOST of the time its slow and my members have been commenting on that. Seems like something is going wrong constantly with DH servers...can only be patient for so long.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: beerbelly
Posted on: 2006-07-26 08:20:00

I notice that my sites load up faster during the evening and they seem to slow down to a crawl during the day.

http://www.careercube.net - helping career seekers to solve ther puzzle
http://www.beerbellyblog.com

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: 614mike
Posted on: 2006-07-26 08:32:00

I have been looking around at host....all the tech support phone numbers are 480 (Arizona), so I do some more research and it turns out most of the host you see advertising online are resellers for godaddy and other big names. 10 of the host sites I looked at all had the same generic sign up and suport page just with different banners on top.
By the way my email and site still aren't working right, maybe half the time, this is over a week now.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: jonnyrico04
Posted on: 2006-07-26 09:14:00

beerbelly...yeah, i noticed that too. I actually just signed up with another hosting company just to host my vB forum...but I'll still use DH as an FTP server since those speeds are still decent. I HATE how long it takes to change pages on my forum...where other sites are 1-2 seconds...my forum can take up to 7-9 seconds!

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Davepar
Posted on: 2006-07-26 09:22:00

I'm done with nightmarehost. The power outages from last year were a debacle. No worries. They promised they'd take care of the generator issues, blah, blah, blah. Now more power outages, everything goes down the crapper, and days upon days of broken hosting follow. This may only happen once per year, but that is far too often for me. There's got to be something better out there. Like someone else said, everything was great up until a couple years ago and it's been downhill ever since.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: beerbelly
Posted on: 2006-07-26 09:59:00

My vB forum is incredibly slow as well. The AJAX enhanced quick reply appears to not even work because the page doesn't even refresh fast enough.

I think they're having the power issues due to the high temperatures over the entire nation this past week. Switching to a different host may be just a temporary solution.

Even MySpace got knocked offline due to the power outage. http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1536975/20060724/index.jhtml?headlines=true

http://www.careercube.net - helping career seekers to solve ther puzzle
http://www.beerbellyblog.com

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

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Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Gameinatrix
Posted on: 2006-07-26 11:24:00

6 months we moved our site from surpass to here on a recommendation from a work friend. Surpass at the time the worst hosting I had ever been with, but I have to say Dreamhost are beating them hands down.

Before we moved from Surpass we were getting roughly a million hits a month, this has now gone down to just over 500,000 and we are losing the creditability that we have worked hard to get. People tell us that pages now take 1 - 3 minutes to load as what there were before 2-3 seconds. I wont wait more than 30 seconds on a page loading up with a 2 meg connection, why should other people.

Many people are saying why use the hosting email when you can just use gmail, that’s fine for you if you are not trying to run a site where the email address is critical to the site. We use this for all manner of contacts, support etc and I am sure these people would not think highly of us if we sent the emails from a gmail account, that just looks so unprofessional.

Our staff have reported that since we moved to Dreamhosting email has become a nightmare for them. Emails are slow, sometimes we don't get them and yesterday I found out that 'spunky' is blacklisted for spam. Not good.

The last straw is now that I cannot contact support directly with questions not related to the current situation (We wanted telnet activated on the account so we can move) and the page I used only a few weeks ago is no longer there and we have no way of contacting them regarding this now.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: rlparker
Posted on: 2006-07-26 12:32:00

I'm assuming that you need some help here...

In reply to:

We wanted telnet activated on the account


Telnet, and ssh, is already "activated" on *every* Dreamhost account. Just go into the Control Panel and create a shell user, if you do not already have one of your users set up as a shell user. This requires *no* interaction from Dreamhost Tech support.

In reply to:

the page I used only a few weeks ago is no longer there and we have no way of contacting them regarding this now


Sure you do. All the "pages" you have seen in several months are still "there", though the content on them can change depending on circumstances. Reading the content on a page generally helps...if you have trouble contacting support from the Control Panel-->Support-->Contact Support, read this post for additional help.

--rlparker

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: jonnyrico04
Posted on: 2006-07-26 22:03:00

I think unless you shell out the bucks for a dedicated server....any overselling shared server hosting service is gonna stink. I was with Globat...omg, my forum crawled, came over to DH..was decent at first, but now it crawls too...well, right now at 1AM, my page is fast...but no one's visiting at 1AM..by tomorrow, it will crawl again.

I'm moving to another shared server host, but its a friends hosting company and its not HUGE...cost 9.99/month and you only get 2.5GB space and 20GB/month transfer...but if my vB forum runs as fast as the dedicated servers....then I'll be happy.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Adrian
Posted on: 2006-07-27 06:12:00

for the past 7 or 8 hours, our website(s) has been MIA

for example, when one types in the URL of our main site, http://www.allisoncrowe.com instead of getting our website, there appears a page that contains this:

Index of /
Name Last modified Size Description

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: snakepimp
Posted on: 2006-07-27 10:33:00

Quote, liberalleft: "As we all know reliability spanning the past year has been extremely sporadic, the past couple months have been garbage and the past month has been completely unacceptable. What's more, every response from a support request goes like this:"

THAT'S JUST GREAT, I CAN'T FIND A DECENT WEBHOST! THIS IS MY 4TH WEBHOST IN A YEAR, I AM EXPERIENCING THE SAME THINGS DESCRIBED IN THIS THREAD, ALL MY WEBMASTER BUDDIES ARE ALL TELLING ME 'DREAMHOST ROCKS, DUDE," AND THEN I COME ONBOARD AND I CAN'T EVEN SEND AN EMAIL? WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TOO?

WELL, ONCE GREENLAND MELTS, I GUESS IT WON'T MATTER, I'LL BE EATING DRIED SPAM IN A CAVE IN MONTANA AND SHOOTING AT MY COUSINS.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Adrian
Posted on: 2006-07-27 12:31:00

I'll still looking for a phone number for Dreamhost

the number I have

1-323-583-7991 is out of service/disconnected, and I can't get Support to give me a call-back, even though our Monster Code account supposedly gives us three call-backs a month!

anyone have any idea how to reach DreamHost Support or DreamHost by phone?

cheers, Ad

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: sarawalliams
Posted on: 2006-07-27 13:22:00

Not having any major problems - apart from the downtime.

My external monitoring service says that I have about 9 outages this month, compared to 2 or 3 in the previous 2 months.

At times, my sites will not load but it returns after 3-5 minutes or so.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: number-six
Posted on: 2006-07-27 13:31:00

Email on all of my domains is still very flakey. Pop clients fail 50% of the time, webmail and pine die with a IMAP authentication failure.

I've got a 16 hour old ticket in that has had no reply. And once again dreamhoststatus.com says everything is peachy!

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: brighthearted
Posted on: 2006-07-27 15:40:00

Has anyone heard any word from DH when all this madness will stop? Ball park even? This is slowly becoming outrageous. I've never even had free hosts this unreliable.

I have 3 different domains, and it's just too much to see all three down together for countless 15 minute patches throughout the day. It just doesn't seem right to be paying for weeks of downtime.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: cejones
Posted on: 2006-07-27 15:53:00

I inherited this Dreamhosted website about a month ago from the last person who ran our HOA website. So far, I am holy unimpressed that we actually pay money for this level of service.

I completely understand that California is roasting... but for pete's sake, open up a second colocation in another part of the country.

If I continue to see our site unavailable, I am going to find a new host with a bit better reputation for uptime and support.

Chris Jones
www.nscna.org

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: sarawalliams
Posted on: 2006-07-28 04:52:00

Yes, I am starting to get extremely worried as well :S

I don't want to move away from Dreamhost, if you get what I mean. I have too many domains and subdomains on my account. It would take me ages to move!

I hope Dreamhost solves all these problems quickly, so that everyone can enjoy happy hosting again! :D

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: talz13
Posted on: 2006-07-28 09:14:00

I hadn't been having many problems before, but this morning my site on topanga server has been unavailable. It hasn't even given me a timeout error, the page has just been loading for the last 5 minutes with no change!



Edit:
Wow, looks like it was just my own problem, opened a new browser and the site loaded up. Restarted the browser that I was using and it started working again...Edited by talz13 on 07/28/06 09:38 AM (server time).

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: bronwen
Posted on: 2006-07-28 11:05:00

I'm still having alot of problems with one of my sites.

How do we find out which server we're on?

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Raz2133
Posted on: 2006-07-28 11:16:00

In reply to:

How do we find out which server we're on?


In the panel goto Users -> Manage Users, the server for a particular user (and the domains controlled by that user) is shown under the Machine column.

Alternatively, log-in to your domain using SSH and the machine name is shown in large ASCII characters.

Mark

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: brighthearted
Posted on: 2006-07-28 15:14:00

I have two DH accounts, on one server Doheny, the other on server Alvarado.

Until today, Alvarado was holding it's own. Not excellent speed, but decent. Now today it's completely down.

Now it's like the lottery for my Doheny account. Half of it's domains work perfectly, half are completely down. I don't understand how that works. If several sites are hosted on Doheny server, how could one work, and one be completely down?

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: darsys
Posted on: 2006-07-28 15:37:00

Maybe I'm being Impatient but when the power went out today my whole phpBB board went down (it has to be related -- my board went down at 4:41pm EST). I submitted a trouble ticket but it's been a long time and no answer -- closing in on two hours -- very frustrating.

The URL to my phpBB is:
www.darsys.net/bbs/

The error reports:
message_die() was called multiple times. This isn't supposed to happen. Was message_die() used in page_tail.php?


If you try to bypass the index script, you still get the same error. I have some phpBB tools. The database reports okay so I think there's something munged on their end. I logged in and looked at the file dates to see what was actually modified and didn't see anything abnormal.

This is a pretty stock installation (with various themes which have no bearing on this) and it's getting me PO'd.

This year Dreamhost has turned from a Dream to, well, something lesser. Support tickets are taking longer (because there are more) and the outages are more and more frequent. And nary an apology of any substance.

I am distressed.



Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: bluelang
Posted on: 2006-07-28 15:44:00

popcorn has been up for 1.5 hours and my site is still unavailable. :(

moving my domains ASAP. :(

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: munk
Posted on: 2006-07-28 15:48:00

Roger that. Even though the Status Blog says:

In reply to:

Power restored

Power has been restored and most servers are up again. The few servers that are still down are being rebooted by our administrators. Still waiting on further information from the datacenter. Our apologies for the downtime this caused.


It's been over an hour, and my site is still down. How long does it take to reboot???



Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: phreakin
Posted on: 2006-07-28 16:07:00

fletcher.dreamhost.com
16:06:22 up 2:07, 5 users, load average: 1.32, 1.77, 1.32

But yet my site has been down the entire time with no response from support.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: cloudysunshine
Posted on: 2006-07-28 16:14:00

Yeah. I've got sites on 2 different servers, and all my sites have been down for almost three hours now! The power was supposedly restored more than an hour and a half ago, yet my sites are still in the toilet.

I was patient when my sites, and everyone else's, went to hell a couple weeks ago. Mistakes happen. I was patient when my sites were crawling for weeks after that, and mysql was constantly up and down.

Things were finally back to normal the last few days when...BAM!!! A power failure, and their generator konks out? What the hell is going on over there?!

I've been with Dreamhost 4 months, and had no problems till this July. I wanna give them a chance, but don't know how much more I can take.

I guess when it rains, it pours.

Sorry, just had to vent a little ):

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: pixpose
Posted on: 2006-07-28 16:22:00

I've been with DH since january, loved them alot, until the last month or so.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: munk
Posted on: 2006-07-28 16:33:00

My forum has google adsense. Several of the ads would be for webhosting. I actually logged into my adsense account and specifically blocked those ads because I supported DH.

However, todays debacle is the last straw. I may try lypha or one of the other hosting solutions that I had blocked.

Very disappointed. I've been using DH since 9/05. I'm paid in full until 9/06, but I doubt i'll make it through the weekend now.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Bilford
Posted on: 2006-07-28 16:41:00

I think you're all overreacting. They had a major outage. I'm sure theyre working on it

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: pixpose
Posted on: 2006-07-28 16:47:00

They've been having major outages all month .. unacceptable.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: munk
Posted on: 2006-07-28 16:59:00

Exactly. I can deal with a major outage. But not when it happens routinely.

I've been very tolerant up to this point.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: cloudysunshine
Posted on: 2006-07-28 17:06:00

Sorry for overreacting. I know it's bad timing that this heat wave struck right after the nightmare that went down a couple weeks ago. But it's hard to stay calm when your sites are down for hours at a time over a period of three weeks.

BTW, status page is still showing "Power restored" but my pages are dead as doornails.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: cloudysunshine
Posted on: 2006-07-28 17:08:00

Sites back up after I posted that last one. Thank goodness!

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Gammamute
Posted on: 2006-07-28 17:46:00

This is an outrage to allow this to stay unoperational.

My site has been down ALL DAY. When the power goes out, you boot up the servers. It's that easy. If it isn't, then you need a new IT dept. This is not a free service. We pay for the uptime.

Is this being taken off our bills?
I don't want to be charged for a site no one can access.

And what about my clients? What about my users, and prospective interests that are going to my site (as I write this), that I paid for to keep up (as I knew to expect this with a free service), and are seeing nothing there? This is affecting my professional image.

And the lack of response is unprofessional, as well. Why am I paying for this? I know pretty good and well that if I don't pay my bill that dreamhost will send it to collections.

So I want a discount on my bill, and an upgrade on my bandwidth/storage space. That seems fair.

Thanks.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Gammamute
Posted on: 2006-07-28 17:51:00

As a matter of fact, everyone who was affected should get one.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: munk
Posted on: 2006-07-28 17:56:00

I would agree with this, but...

What good is extra storage and bandwidth when your site is routinely down??

Still, it would be nice to see some kind of gesture from DH.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: 614mike
Posted on: 2006-07-28 19:20:00

My site and email has been 100% since last night, and webmail is working fine again. Hope this gives you all some hope. I seriously was about to switch to godaddy, I mean I was on their site with my credit card out, and my fiance called and asked me if I wanted to go get a steak at this awesome steakhouse nearby, and I did. Maybe it was a sign from above to go eat steak and not leave dreamhost.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: ravenoak
Posted on: 2006-07-28 19:52:00

All of my sites on winston are down again. That's twice today, once around 3 pm (I think the power outtage) and once now. Again.

www.savefrystreet.com
www.oaksclass.com
www.kaonevar.com

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: ByteTraveler
Posted on: 2006-07-28 20:23:00

Sadly, it appears these guys are hosting our sites from a data center with a pretty shoddy track record...

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2006/07/25/myspace_outage_pinpointed_at_la_telecom_building.html


Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: IAmAtMyWitsEnd
Posted on: 2006-07-28 23:23:00

DH claims that there are no server side issues at this point....which is ridiculous...i have chatted to at least 8 other members who have all of their sites down currently and there are scores of others in the forum...i guess DH thinks that if they ignore us long enough, they will have it fixed and than can ride in on their magical unicorn proclaiming victory...very disappointing


IAmAtMyWitsEnd

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: sturm
Posted on: 2006-07-28 23:36:00

I've still got a site out. It's been down for 10 hours now.


Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: jalpuna
Posted on: 2006-07-29 00:34:00

It's kind of hard to say there aren't still problems when I can't even log in to the DH control panel!

Jalpuna! - personal blog
this is the box - radio blog
robsdemo - what I do

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: rlparker
Posted on: 2006-07-29 01:34:00

I was using the Control Panel at approximately the same time when you reported being unable to log-in, and it worked for me, though one thing does come to mind.

You wouldn't be using Firefox, would you? After the latest (yesterday) Firefox "automatic update" to version 1.5.0.5, my *initial* attempt to log-in to the panel resulted in a "blank screen", with "Done" in the status bar, and the animated "circle" indicator in the upper right corner of the browser window "stopped".

Clicking the "GO" button (just to the right of the address bar) instantly loaded the main page of the panel. Once that was done, subsequent log-out/log-in worked just fine.

Similar circustances were reported on this forum after the last Firefox upgrade. You might try, in addition to the above, clearing you browser cache.

Just a thought, of course, as it is very possible that the panel may have been "down" for a very short time, or any number of other factors on the net between you and the Dreamhost server might account for you inability to log-on.

--rlparker

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: michael
Posted on: 2006-07-29 02:00:00

Have you submitted a support request? what is the name of one of your domains that is down so that I can locate your account? What are your friends domains? have they submitted support requests?

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: DebK
Posted on: 2006-07-29 06:16:00

ok.. how should we contact you if we can NOT get into our control panel? All I get is a hourglass still and when it finally stops I get a BLANK page.

Yes, I am a little upset. How in the yeck are we suppose to run a business from our web sites when mine has been off and on for at least 3 weeks now! Yes, 3 weeks.. My sites are either DOWN or very sloooooooooooooow. I am getting tried of looking on the stats page only to see MORE problems.

I tried to just send a email to support@dreamhost.com and got this back

We're sorry.. your email was unable to be processed by our automatic support system, and so is being returned to you.

Our system could not find the open support case you were replying to, and so could not automatically tie your message into our system. If this was a reply to an EXISTING issue, please be sure to keep the:

[blah 123456]

in the subject line of your reply!

If this is regarding a NEW issue, we must ask that you submit it through our web panel at:

https://panel.dreamhost.com/?tree=support.msg

(You can log in with this email address and your panel password.. have it emailed to you if you've forgotten it!)

All messages submitted through that form are guaranteed to be received!

Our apologies for the inconvenience,

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: dhap
Posted on: 2006-07-29 10:25:00

During the last 6 months, Dreamhost has gifted me with more downtime than any host I have ever had. More email problems, more site errors, more downtime all around, more importantly, more embarassment, I've referred at least 8 clients to this host and just yesterday I had a nice extended downtime during a presentation meeting with a client. Yes it's budget hosting, but in the past it was more than enough. Would a dedicated service have avoided this "power outage"?

Power outage? I just don't get it. Routers, switchgear, servers, aren't they all on UPS? Before 6 months ago this was the best host around. Now I have to look at moving everyone to a new one which is NOT something I enjoy doing.

<Sigh>. . .

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: dakic
Posted on: 2006-07-29 12:14:00

Huh, my sites are working at the moment but as you all said, it was pretty pathetic performance lately. As most of you I moved to DH from midPhase in Chicago, which was excellent (except doesn't have rails) to DH because of it's features. Features are nice, but they were not working lately. I asked DH to move me to another server on two occasions because of poor performance but they ignored these requests.
I delayed a launch of one site because of current erratic performance. I don't know what to do, if I knew what I know now, I would probably use PHP for development and not be stuck with just a few hosts (TextDrive I heard is really not great at all and there are not much choice, RailsPlayground is hosted in house of one guy).
What can I say, world needs hosting like DH, but it needs it to work.
Here is how mine looked:
Jul 28, 2006 7/28/06 4:16 PM CST 9 Hrs 32 Mins
Jul 25, 2006 7/25/06 2:56 AM CST 13 Mins 44 Secs
Jul 24, 2006 7/24/06 2:45 PM CST 13 Mins 13 Secs
Jul 22, 2006 7/22/06 7:48 PM CST 4 Hrs 56 Mins
Jul 21, 2006 7/21/06 10:31 AM CST 1 Hrs 0 Mins
Jul 20, 2006 7/20/06 3:13 AM CST 28 Mins 30 Secs
Jul 18, 2006 7/18/06 2:04 PM CST 1 Hrs 29 Mins

So, I don't know, I would expect good people of DH should find a way to fix these recent problems permanently. I am looking for alternatives, thanks for mention of mediatemple, they seem good for what I want.

Best,
Zeljko Dakic

P.S. Suggestion to DH, move some of your facilities here in Chicago and you will have less problems in the future and I am sure there are advantages in terms of connectivity as well.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: dallas
Posted on: 2006-07-29 12:25:00

The power supply for the entire building (which houses several data centers, several web hosts, and some notable large sites like myspace.com) is completely redundant with incredible amounts of UPS power and 5 huge diesel generators. On paper it sounds very good.

During the power outage last year the UPS system worked but the generators did not. That was very bad but we decided to give them another chance. We have a lot invested in our current setup and changing locations is a very big undertaking. The power problems are affecting all of downtown Los Angeles so we would have to move to a completely other city. Many of our senior technical people live near our current office and data center and they would all end up moving themselves or enduring painful commutes in LA traffic. These are not excuses.. just some insight into the reality of the situation for us.

We have been with this building for several years and at the time of the first power outage that was the first time they had failed us. In hindsight, we should have had less faith in them. That's very easy to see now.

For this second power outage of the local grid, the building's UPS system failed but the generators did work. 0 for 2. Our building had been on generator power for the entire week since the local power grid had gone out and that was working fine until some sort of electrical malfunction took the generator system down yesterday afternoon. They quickly switched us back to grid power which is how things are now.

In a network like ours, it's not just a matter of 'rebooting a server' as some of you have indicated. We have all user data stored on network file servers for redundancy and to optimize usage, for instance. After yesterday's power blip all of the 68 file servers but one came up properly. That one that did not resulted in some websites being down for an additional hour and a half or so while we diagnosed the problem. We have now corrected the configuration problem and expect all file servers to come up normally in the future.

Obviously, loss of power to our data center is something we would rather never see happen. We are already in the process of acquiring some UPS equipment of our own for our most critical equipment and we will be evaluating all possible options including completely moving our data center operation to another location.


Regarding anyone who still has some services not functioning normally. If we have not posted to dreamhoststatus.com about it, there is a fairly good chance we might not know about it. You should submit a support response. If you are having problems with the web control panel, try another web browser. There aren't any known problems with the web panel right now and we use it ourselves constantly, so mention the problems you are having in your support message.

No one is being ignored, though we know it can feel like that if your website is down and you have not heard from us as fast as you would like. We have more support techs than normal working today specifically to address these issues as fast as we can.




- Dallas
- DreamHost Head Honcho/Founder

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: rlparker
Posted on: 2006-07-29 15:01:00

In reply to:

how should we contact you if we can NOT get into our control panel? All I get is a hourglass still and when it finally stops I get a BLANK page.


Debk,

First of all, you don't want to contact *me*, I do not work for Dreamhost (I'm a customer, just like you) wink

As for contacting Dreamhost when the panel is down, there are several threads in this forum about that issue, one where Dreamhost Head Honcho Dallas talks about the "support@dreamhost.com" usage issue (The thread is here).

If the panel is truely down, the only way I know of is to use the "contact us" link on the dreamhost.com main page. This is *not* a good alternate method, as your message goes into a differently prioritized response queue, but it should eventually get seen and, hopefully, forwarded to the appropriate people. Dreamhost acknowledges that this needs to be improved, and "Dallas" has written that he is looking into providing an alternate contact method.

However, the symptoms you describe are more consistent with your browser not properly displaying the page than they are with the panel being "down". Generally, if the panel is down, you will get an error message, not a blank page.

There are other threads in the forum that address this issue (essentially clearing your browser's cache and reloading the page often helps), though that depends to some degree upon what browser you are using.

--rlparker



Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: dakic
Posted on: 2006-07-29 17:55:00

Thank you for explanation Dallas.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: jalpuna
Posted on: 2006-07-29 22:43:00

I was using Safari actually. I should have remembered that the control panel seems buggy with Safari at times.

Jalpuna! - personal blog
this is the box - radio blog
robsdemo - what I do

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: rlparker
Posted on: 2006-07-29 22:54:00

Might have something to do with it, as I have heard of Safari users having occasional trouble. Are you now able to access the panel?

BYW, you have some very nice sites, and I love your audio work!

--rlparker


Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: norm1037
Posted on: 2006-07-30 05:20:00

That blank ControlPanel page problem returned for me yesterday and today following an update to Firefox 1.5.0.5. Hopefully it is just a one off glitch, although a click on the green Go button reloads the ControlPanel okay.



--
Norm


Opinions are my own views, not DreamHosts'.
I am NOT a DreamHost employee OK!! mad

You act on my advice at your own risk!

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: matttail
Posted on: 2006-07-30 09:58:00

In reply to:

I don't know why so many people rely on email with their domain. You are much better off to have email that doesn't rely on your domain being up. If you ever have to move your domain, your email will be down. Maybe it's just me, but Gmail rocks - over 2gb of space and customers don't care if you are using an email address from your domain or not.



Because not having E-mail at your domain looks highly unprofessional. I see business and others all the time who don't use E-mail at their domain, and you know why? Because a 'friend' or someone did the job for cheep or free and didn't know who to set up the E-mail. So now they post E-mail addresses that are likely to change in a few monts cause it's through their ISP, or one of the newer free sites that will go 'bottoms up' in a few months.

If you're selling a product there's no way I'd do business with any one who has a G-mail account as E-mail - that just looks like a poor attempt to cheat me.

In reply to:

DreamBook only for me, I'm afraid - when it gets back online (I received a reply from Support - without posting it to the Status page, they took the Management Server down for repair, and tell me they will "try" to reinstate it by "the end of the week", whenever EXACTLY that might be).



As dreamhost provides this as a free service it seems they have made it a very low priorty to fix when there are issues. I agree that falling down on one front makes you look bad on others - just like leaving this forum with 500 errors for 3 or more days looked really bad. However it is definatly a good thing that they are putting customers first. Instead of waisitng time fixing the forum, or making sure that dreamhost.com came back on-line first they put much more effort into keeping customer servers up.

At the same time it's really frustraing to not hear back from support immeadtly when your site is down. however you must also understand that support had a flood of messages about 4 times their normal load. Where the support que is normally 300 or less when things are smooth, it shot up to over 1300 with the worst of the issues. To top it off, the admin team was all over at their data center rebooting machines and trying to get the network up again, instead of sitting down and writing replies to your support requests.

And to the person who put the promotional offer in for Media Temple, do you realize that they are actually using the very same building as dreamhost for their data center? read their own report about it here. So don't go running to media temple thinking they will not be effected by the same power loss issues.

Have a wonderful day all. smile



--Matttail
art.googlies.net - personal website

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: BRoach
Posted on: 2006-07-30 14:20:00

EMail has been down all day. (IMAP clients can't connet and trying to use webmail errors with "Connection dropped by IMAP server"). This has been a constant intermittant problem for weeks now though (with varying causes - either the IMAP server is hosed, or the SMTP server is), so it shouldn't be a surpirse. Opened a ticket 4 hours ago, no response.

Sites just went down (again), and have been slow for the last two days when you could get to them.

Fun Fun Fun.

- Roach





Edited by BRoach on 07/30/06 02:41 PM (server time).

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: chrissyt
Posted on: 2006-07-30 16:21:00

Only a 4 hour wait time? Lucky. I've been waiting nearly 18 hours and my site has been down for going on 20 hours.

I can't get any responses, even when I've seen the number of waiting tickets dropping.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: manateemedia
Posted on: 2006-07-30 21:03:00

The recent outages concern me...has anyone been here long enough to confirm these things occur once in a blue moon?

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: rlparker
Posted on: 2006-07-30 21:50:00

They concern me too...

*And* they concern my clients, most of which are hosted at/by Dreamhost on shared servers.

In reply to:

has anyone been here long enough to confirm these things occur once in a blue moon?


I have hosted sites here since Summer, 1998 which, if "internet years" are similar to "dog years" is, I think, a "long time".

My experience is that these situations are *rare*. There was a major power outage last year also (California *has* had more than its share of power trouble). There have been occasional hardware problems (things break and/or wear out), and of late, a *hugh* growth spurt has brought large numbers of "newbie" users to the shared hosting environment straining resources at least as much as others' patience.

Other threads in this forum discuss this growth problem, and I won't go ito it here again, but I will say that *any* system trouble or failure is magnified considerably by the frustrated whines of hundreds of "$7.95 a month" users who have little or no idea of what is involved in providing the service they have come to believe is due them.

I am not happy with recent events, and I am *very* concerned that Dreamhost "get it together". *My* experience has been that they will, as they have before. I cannot authoritativly state what my total "uptime" experience has been because my downtimes, over the years, have been completely insignificant (far less than 1%).

*No* downtime is insignificant when your site is down and stuff needs to be fixed, but at the end of the day I and my clients recognize there is no better overall value to be had than that offerred by Dreamhost. When things are working well at Dreamhost, as they have over 99% of the time for me, there is no more powerful or useful shared hosting environment around, and my "smallish" clients greatly appreciate the ability to have a strong web presence at a cost even the smallest of them can afford.

Of course, YMMV. There are others (on different servers, etc) with experiences far worse than mine, and I am not meaning to belittle their pain. Things were better before Dramhost got so "big", but they have adapted well to similar "growing pains" in the past, and I believe they will come out of this "month from hell" stronger and better prepared for the next round (which *will*, at one point or another, come).

--rlparker



Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Gammamute
Posted on: 2006-07-31 10:06:00

""...by the frustrated whines of hundreds of "$7.95 a month" users who have little or no idea of what is involved in providing the service they have come to believe is due them.""


You can't be serious. While I personally don't have the minimum service at dreamhost, it's pretty apparent that the "7.95 a month" package should work as it is advertised- it IS due them. It's due me, too. The snipe of elder generations at e-world's sense of entitlement to performance didn't go unnoticed...

Do you work for dreamhost?

what makes you think dreamhost is the best hosting provider? they don't seem to be able to handle their client load. I'm here because it's cheap! lol Unfortunately since I've been here, I've been getting less than what I paid for. Less than what my contract made 'due me'. You can't advertise something if you can't hold to it; And if you could, but now can't, (due to client load and bad hardware budgeting) then you need to stop advertising those things you can no longer do. Those are basic fundamentals of business. Honestly, I'd love to have clients like yours. Apparently I don't have to know how commerce works to get them.

There's a difference between a false sense of entitlement and having high expectations for your 'contractual bindings'.

I also want to say that it's a sad, sad place we're living when a contract for services has lost its stick. If you can't adhere to every. single. piece of the contract, then don't write it/sign it. I'm obligated to pay them my bill, and they are obligated to provide me service that is professional. This false rep is detrimental to my business.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: gordaen
Posted on: 2006-07-31 10:19:00

I believe rlparker is referring to the countless DH employee hours that are lost reading and responding to complaints/suggestions/support tickets from the less knowledgeable users who expect everything to be perfect. Certainly things have been bad lately, but submitting a ticket is meant to A: informat DH of a problem and B: help identify that problem.

In other words, "My server isnt working" is not helpful (http? ftp? webmail?).

"I cannot ssh into my server ('rollo'). It worked fine 30 minutes ago, but it has not worked since. I get X message..." is much more useful.

Also, people need to be checking dreamhoststatus before submitting a ticket. Submitting a ticket when everything is down because of a major problem (like the power outage) just adds more overhead to everyone's requests.

Just as in any webhosting contract there is the "we'll try our best, but we make no promises" clause.

In reply to:

DreamHost Webhosting makes no warranties or representations of any kind, whether expressed or implied for the service it is providing. DreamHost Webhosting also disclaims any warranty of merchant-ability or fitness for a particular purpose and will not be responsible for any damages that may be suffered by the Customer, including loss of data resulting from delays, non-deliveries or service interruptions by any cause or errors or omissions of the Customer. Use of any information obtained by way of DreamHost Webhosting is at the Customer's own risk, and DreamHost Webhosting specifically denies any responsibility for the accuracy or quality of information obtained through its services. Connection speed represents the speed of a connection to and do not represent guarantees of available end to end bandwidth. DreamHost Webhosting expressly limits its damages to the Customer for any non-accessibility time or other down time to the pro-rata monthly charge during the system unavailability.


I don't work for DH. I am not necessarily defending them, just pointing out different perspectives.

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Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: 614mike
Posted on: 2006-07-31 10:48:00

Has anyone been able to get onto webmail today? I have tried Safari and Firefox and after the login page it freezes trying to load my inbox.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: sdayman
Posted on: 2006-07-31 11:19:00

I got in with Safari, but it took a long time for my (empty) inbox and navbar to load.

-Scott

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: 614mike
Posted on: 2006-07-31 13:40:00

OK my sites down again.....hmmmm.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: dhap
Posted on: 2006-07-31 13:45:00

I'm sorry I have to repeat, a low price is not an excuse for poor service. And shared hosting should be cheap, because it is in fact easy to implement and administer. These days the software and hardware is much cheaper and much more reliable "out-of-the-box." I don't run a host but I know for a fact that it isn't brain surgery. Cheap and good was the appeal of this host in the past; Cheap and bad is obviously not what we signed up for, that's the complaint, nothing else. If people are sumbitting stupid support tickets I could care less, I've submitted a few exasperated ones myself recently. People get tired of explaining problems as they become repetitive. I always do my best to explain what is going on, but more often than not lately there is nothing more to say than "Hey! My site and email are down!" If I can't get a response from http or smtp or telnet, what the heck else am I supposed to say?

In addition, when clients are referred, the "cheap" hosting adds up to a chunk of business for the host, and I don't in any way consider it trivial. The apologists here don't seem to value the business concepts as much as the technical considerations.

We all understand the host is trying. It just hasn't been good enough as of lately, and rather than switch we'd like to see it improve.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Davepar
Posted on: 2006-07-31 14:00:00

Ditto. My site is down again, confirmed by DH. God this is frustrating. Last week I hunted around for a new host, but none of the large ones seem to offer all the features I need (cron jobs, Subversion, etc.). I decided to put off working on switching hosts and now I'm regretting that decision.

I don't see how anybody can defend the UPS/generator problems this time around. After last year's back-up power failure, DH should have tested it. Heck, switch off the power at 5am on a Sunday and really test it. Just make sure it works. Having 5 diesel generators and upteen UPS back-ups does no good if it all goes TU when you need it.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: gordaen
Posted on: 2006-07-31 14:12:00

I agree, the lower cost isn't an excuse to provide poor/no service. Of course, I also understand that when I spend $30 for a hotel room, it's not going to be a 5-star resort. If I was paying a lot for this service I would be more upset, but I've learned a lot of patience, particularly in the last few years. I can see where a business owner (or someone providing sites to businesses) would be upset, but submitting tickets that aren't helpful only hurts the rest of us.

I suppose I don't see how cheaper/more realiable software and hardware is going to prevent power outages and generator fires. I also wouldn't call shared hosting to the extent that DH offers it "easy to implement and administer," but that's just me. I do believe that DH has over-extended themselves and they should focus on providing quality service to the customers they have rather than trying to find new ones with ridiculous coupon offers. Word of mouth is a much more powerful force online in the long run. If I were to start hosting people, I'd focus on quality before quantity. I'd make the uptime statistics publicly available even when things were bad.

If you can't access your site through any service, then there isn't much more to say than it is down, but I'd suggest letting them know the services you tried so A: they know you are more competant than the average user and B: they know it isn't a problem with just one service (or just one machine depending on the problems).

There are a lot of things I really like about DH. Prior to all the troubles, response times were literally within minutes for almost all of my tickets. Their panel is far better than what most hosts provide. Their quirky sense of humor in the blog and newsletters is nice. Actually have a forum where other customers can communicate to each other is great too. My previous host provided none of those, but the uptime was almost perfect. I'd take minor downtime and a greater sense of community myself, and I did. I just hope that these issues are taken care of and things go back to the way they were...

As far as webmail goes, it's been slow for me at times today, but it has loaded each time.

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Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: rlparker
Posted on: 2006-07-31 15:28:00

In reply to:

You can't be serious. While I personally don't have the minimum service at dreamhost, it's pretty apparent that the "7.95 a month" package should work as it is advertised- it IS due them. It's due me, too.


I am. Serous as a heart attack. Well, I guess I'm "half-serious". gordaen, in his earlier response to your post, very accurately paraphrased the message I was trying to send. I get "frustrated" too, (though not necessarily by the same things that frustrate you). As for "work as advertised" goes, the fact that something is advertised as having a particular capability does not mean that nothing will ever "break". Dreamhost *does* provide the things it advertises *within the scope of their "TOS"*. In a perfect world, things would never break, but, "grasshopper", this is not a perfect world.

In reply to:

The snipe of elder generations at e-world's sense of entitlement to performance didn't go unnoticed..


Good !smile

No, I do not work for Dreamhost (which is something that should have been completely obvious to you had *read* the post to which you responded). No Dreamhost employee I have ever encountered would make even a passing reference to any of their customers "newbie" status in such a "flip" manner. They are far to polite for such things wink. "Reading" is generally a "good thing"; had you carefully read (and understood?) the TOS when you made the "contract" you are so fond of blathering about, you would realize how untenable your position is when you talk about "contractual binding" and what you believe you are "due". gordaen did a good job of pointing that out to you, so I won't rehash it here.

As for why I think Dreamhost is the best hosting provider, again "reading is fundamental". My post was in response to the orignal poster's question about past experience, and I detailed mine. If you are truly interested, you can easily read any/all of my prior posts on such subjects and you will have all the "reason" you need for why I feel the way I do. If, on the other hand, your main purpose in this thread is to just complain and lobby for a credit (which is kinda what you earlier posts in this thread look like to me), none of the historical experiences of others will be of interest to you.

In reply to:

Honestly, I'd love to have clients like yours. Apparently I don't have to know how commerce works to get them.


You could probably have such clients yourself, but you will have to have a *mature* understanding of "how commerce works", and always provide those clients with a "real world" perspective of the landscape in order to find, and keep, them.

In reply to:

If you can't adhere to every. single. piece of the contract, then don't write it/sign it. I'm obligated to pay them my bill, and they are obligated to provide me service that is professional. This false rep is detrimental to my business.


I agree with the spirit of what I *think* you are saying here (though, being apparantly one of the "elder generation", I'n not completely sure of what your last sentence above means). I submit you should view your "contract" in exactly the terms you describe: Dreamhost "promised" you *nothing* in the way of uninterrupted service and, in fact, expressly disclamied any such representation. If you represented something other than that to your clients, I *expect* that your "false rep" *will* be detrimental to your business.

As always, when it comes to an individual's experience with a business, YMMV. I too have "high expectations" of quality from Dream host, and *my* expectations over the long-tern have been, by and large, met. My response to the poster to whom I replied accurately described this. It just appears your "sense of entitlement" and understanding of your "contractual bindings" are different (and less accurate) than mine. You "go" for that "credit" though; you will likely have some success with that, as Dreamhost has always been, in my experience, more than fair and generous in dealling with dissatisfied customers.

Nobody likes the kind of service that most of us have experienced over the last 3 weeks. That said, while "reasons' are different than "excuses", and do not, in and of themselves, "excuse" anything, they *are* still "reasons". Stuff *does* happen. I appreciate that Dreamhost "owns up" to this stuff in a forthright and candid manner, and would rather "stick it out" till they get it sorted (as they have in the past) than run around being "outraged" over a broken website, yelling about my contract, and generally acting like the sky is falling. As for "professional service", "professional" interaction between business associates is a two-way street; if you want to be treated like a "professional", I suggest you will have more success in that area by behaving and communicating in a professional manner yourself. Screaming about what an "outrage" it is when a shared server "borks", a filer fails, a router goes "paws up", or a power failure occurs, or "all of the above", and lobbying for a refund, credit, or other consideration (for a prorated piece of a month's fee?) betrays to all the extent of your own "prossionalism", given the amount of money involved for any Dreamhost "shared hosting" account. Professionals are far more interested in minimizing the damage from such circumstances, and getting things back to "normal", than arguing over a (very) few dollars.

--rlparker



Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: 614mike
Posted on: 2006-07-31 17:45:00

Everything is back working for me again, so I withdrew my support ticket. Thanks DH, I hope everyone elses stuff gets back 100% ( and mine stays there). DH techs must be racking up some overtime (I hope they get time and a half).

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Gammamute
Posted on: 2006-08-01 07:50:00

I won't be sending in my bill this month.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: rlparker
Posted on: 2006-08-01 08:01:00

In reply to:

It just hasn't been good enough as of lately, and rather than switch we'd like to see it improve.


That is very well stated, and pretty well expresses my attitudes toward all of this.

--rlparker

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: Gammamute
Posted on: 2006-08-01 08:01:00

Thanks for the laugh. I hope you don't really have those positions, otherwise I'd love to appeal to you as part of my customer base. "Easy money, and no required services on my end." It's the perfect client.

Just because you took a CYA measure doesn't mean its ethical to rely on it so readily.

However, my site it is running, a little, and I can actually update it for now. You've been rather amusing. Thanks.

Re: Is anyone still having problems?

Posted by: jkrobin
Posted on: 2006-08-01 12:24:00

None. Of. My. Sites. Are. Available.

I think they've been down almost as they've been up recently. And when they've been up, they've been slooooww to respond.

I don't want to move, but I'm being forced into researching the possibility.

Ugh.

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