Domain Limits

Domain Limits

Posted by: hostman
Posted on: 2006-12-09 16:51:00

Just curious if I'll encounter any hidden limits -- or anyone have experience hosting multiple sites here on Dreamhost. I've owned a Code Monster DH account for about a year, but never used it. I have over 6,000 Domain names I want to park with Google ads, etc on them -- each is no more than one page. I know a lot of hosting companies would do them for free but I'm not interested in their ad-sponsored arrangement since I have this DH so cheap. I can make more doing it myself.

Downtime is not an issue really since each page is really just full of ads, and not full-service websites with content, chat, forums, etc. Oh yeah, each domain is available for lease, but separate hosting accounts will be set up when that time comes.

Anyone care to advise me? And I guess there's no quick way to import all 6k domains into my hosting plan without entering each one individually is there?

THANKS!!

Re: Domain Limits

Posted by: moua
Posted on: 2006-12-09 17:19:00

I also have a lot of domains (not 6000 however).
There is not limit, but you must manually add them (no bulk add).

However you could use a software like supermacro to add them "manually" with automatic click etc...


Nevertheless it's ok tu use many domains on dreamhost (that's why i came here first).

Re: Domain Limits

Posted by: nathan823
Posted on: 2006-12-09 17:35:00

yup, that is true.. you can have unlimited domain or subdomains. Another reason for me to come to dreamhost is that the server space increases every week. It is same as unlimited server space. COOL!!! So the only thing troubles you is how to grow your business. You don't need to worry about domains or spaces any mroe CHEERS!!!

Re: Domain Limits

Posted by: Raz2133
Posted on: 2006-12-09 20:04:00

In reply to:

I guess there's no quick way to import all 6k domains into my hosting plan without entering each one individually is there?


None that I am aware of and it is definitely going to be a long process adding 6000 domains via the panel.

As the others have said; There should not be too many issues with hosting the domains, although you might want to divide them up between multiple users, if only to make the FTP directory listings shorter tongue

Mark

Re: Domain Limits

Posted by: nathan823
Posted on: 2006-12-10 06:34:00

6000 domains... I can't imagine. I'll suggest you to write to DH support team. ask them to do this for you :P It is much easier and faster to do this in their side.

Re: Domain Limits

Posted by: Affiliate7
Posted on: 2006-12-10 10:40:00

DreamHost states in their faq that they won't transfer sites, so I don't know if they will create them...
I would do another thing.

- Create one user
- Outsource the work so that someone can create the accounts
- After the work is done, change the password for that sole user

Done!

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Re: Domain Limits

Posted by: anonymous2
Posted on: 2006-12-10 11:04:00

> - Outsource the work so that someone can create the accounts

Good one. I can't get past 6000 domain names!

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Posted by: wholly
Posted on: 2006-12-10 14:46:00

Was he talking about the sites themselves? I thought he was just talking about getting the domains into DH's management system.

That would be a lot more work.

Wholly

Re: Domain Limits

Posted by: kchrist
Posted on: 2006-12-10 15:34:00

Domain name squatting: The tragedy of the commons in action.

I wonder if you're the guy squatting on one of the names I want to use for a project of mine.


Re: Domain Limits

Posted by: wholly
Posted on: 2006-12-10 19:06:00

He'll sell it to you. Make an offer.

Wholly

Re: Domain Limits

Posted by: Affiliate7
Posted on: 2006-12-11 04:04:00

I'm also against registering thousands of names for PPC or selling domains, but what can we do? Even Google supports that, and they have a special program for parked sites.
It's getting hard to register a good domain, and I see most of them parked, instead of really used, but as DreamHost do, I won't judge it. It's like people that buy lots of land, but not to build houses on it. They are free to do it, even if it will be tougher for the rest of us.

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Re: Domain Limits

Posted by: scjessey
Posted on: 2006-12-11 05:39:00

In reply to:

Domain name squatting: The tragedy of the commons in action.


I think domain name squatters are only a few rungs on the evolutionary ladder above spammers, personally. Most of these domains are used as link farms, or redirect to spyware/adware/virus-laden sites and porn.

Re: Domain Limits

Posted by: Affiliate7
Posted on: 2006-12-11 05:59:00

No Simon, you are confusing domain squatters with black hatters.

Domain squatters register domains that they think are good, to park (ppc) or selling them (in private auctions or places like Sedo). They don't do anything else.

Blackhatters may register hundreds or thousands of cheap junk domains (like .info) to create link farms, splogs, etc.

Totally different things...

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Re: Domain Limits

Posted by: scjessey
Posted on: 2006-12-11 07:52:00

In reply to:

No Simon, you are confusing domain squatters with black hatters.


There is no confusion, as far as I am concerned. I think either flavor is equally annoying. Both consume domains like a spreading cancer, and neither are adding much value to the internet.

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Posted by: Affiliate7
Posted on: 2006-12-11 08:09:00

You may not like one or others, but saying that domain squatters redirect to virus and create link farms is an incorrect assumption.
I just wanted to state that this sentence:
"Most of these domains are used as link farms, or redirect to spyware/adware/virus-laden sites and porn"
isn't correct.

Those parked pages from domain squatters have just ads from Google, Yahoo and other PPC provides. No spyware there.

Most of them aren't even tech guys and don't know how to do that. Some aren't even webmasters and don't know how to create a webpage.
That is why some park their domains.

They just need to have big pockets, bulk register lots of domains, and point to the park system's DNS and hope for clicks or sells. They don't game search engines and neither infect people. If the name isn't trademarked, you, I, or them are free to register them.

It's a pain when we want to register a domain, and they aren't available. Even yesterday I had that problem. All good combinations for a determined keyword were registered. But who can I blame?

We can't put all people on the same bag. Next time someone may say that all webmasters are scammers, just because some of them are.

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Posted by: anonymous2
Posted on: 2006-12-11 10:07:00

> Next time someone may say that all webmasters are scammers, just because some of them are.

Some webmasters are a few rungs below spammers on the evolutionary ladder. :-)

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Posted by: Affiliate7
Posted on: 2006-12-11 10:24:00

Yep "some". But noone can say that "all" people of a certain "class" behaves the same way. This is the point I want to clear up. I just dislike generalizations.

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Posted by: anonymous2
Posted on: 2006-12-11 10:46:00

> I just dislike generalizations.

I agree. People who generalize too much are below some spammers and some webmasters on the evolutionary ladder.

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Posted by: scjessey
Posted on: 2006-12-11 11:42:00

In reply to:

saying that domain squatters redirect to virus and create link farms is an incorrect assumption


I've had an awful lot of experience with this problem. There are many firms who specialize in registering domains that look or sound like existing domains with the specific purpose of generating income by all kinds of unacceptable methods. There is an organization in New Jersey, for example, that registers like/similar domain names and turns them into link farms with spyware and ads. At the same time, the organization actively pursues the sale of the domain name to the owner of the domain it is trying to "feed off". In this way, they are functioning as both cyber-squatter and black hatter. They make extraordinary amounts of money from their activities - more than enough to handle the numerous lawsuits they get involved in.

Cyber-squatters are really no different from ticket touts. For the most part, they are registering domain names just to sell them for a profit. I believe this is detrimental to the internet (and the World Wide Web), and so I disapprove of it. So, it seems, do the federal government.


In reply to:

People who generalize too much are below some spammers and some webmasters on the evolutionary ladder.


People who deliberately make posts designed to antagonize are on the bottom rung of that aforementioned ladder, Bob.

Re: Domain Limits

Posted by: Affiliate7
Posted on: 2006-12-11 16:23:00

Hello Simon,

That group is doing both the 2 problems we mentioned. But most cybersquatters don't do that. In the long term those criminals that install spyware will have their business shutdown.

As for the regular cybersquatters, if they don't do any of these "trademark infringement, dilution, and counterfeiting" they aren't really doing anything against the law. They are just upsetting us, and that isn't a crime.

This week I tried to register a domain with the word charity. I tried 100 combinations! All the good ones were registered, and most were just parked for years. That really is annoying, but they aren't doing anything against the law so it was just what I was saying. I can't compare them to virus and spyware criminals. They are just players, like in the stock market.

Today I need domains that I will never get. I should have registered them some years ago, when they were available, but back then I didn't want to register domains that I wasn't going to use right now. I didn't want to be a cybersquatter. And now, if I want to buy that same domain, people ask me hundreds or thousands of dollars.

I was the dumb guy! From now on, I register domains for future projects, or they will be registered and used for speculation.

It's a tough market! So I'm gonna take 2 days off. Really need some rest...

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Re: Domain Limits

Posted by: dtobias
Posted on: 2006-12-13 08:27:00

Were you looking in .org for "charity" names? If it's a nonprofit you're registering for, that's the logical place to go, and many more names are still available than in .com.

If you use subdomains logically, you can create a lot of sites within just one registered domain; this is much more efficient than registering a heap of names.

-- Dan

Re: Domain Limits

Posted by: Affiliate7
Posted on: 2006-12-15 12:00:00

Hello Dan,

If you just register the .org, you will loose lots of returning visitors to the .com version.
Believe me, I know... :/
So I just register .net or .orgs if I can get the .com

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