Unlimited policy change?

Unlimited policy change?

Posted by: sdayman
Posted on: 2008-12-27 09:54:00

I don't remember the wording being this way:
"Making your account resources available (whether for free or pay) to the general public."

Wasn't it more along the lines of making your account resources available to "anybody?" Like friends, family, club members, etc. The current wording sounds much more like the way it is for any account. Users typically don't go around acting as hosting resellers for any schmoe who comes along.

A search comes up with this wording:
"(4)Reselling (or giving away) access to your account to others."

Current wording better defines who "others" are. Not that it really matters since I don't know anybody who has hit even 50% of their current resources. The only reason it matters is I've got some free time and if they're still taking volunteers to switch over to the new servers, I'd give it a try. It's the "Unlimited" ToS that's been stopping me so far.

-Scott

Re: Unlimited policy change?

Posted by: Lensman
Posted on: 2008-12-27 10:02:00

Hey Scott, very helpful observation. To be clear, the OLD wording was:

In reply to:

(4)Reselling (or giving away) access to your account to others.


The NEW wording is:

In reply to:

Making your account resources available (whether for free or pay) to the general public.


Very different. Like you, the new wording covers all the situations that I might find myself in - or already am in with my friends and family.

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Re: Unlimited policy change?

Posted by: rlparker
Posted on: 2008-12-28 20:36:00

The latest wording was:

In reply to:

Making your account resources available (whether for free or pay) to the general public.


..to which Lensman commented:

In reply to:

Like you, the new wording covers all the situations that I might find myself in - or already am in with my friends and family.


I know that the wording of that unlimited policy has been under review, and I don't think it is "quite right" yet - the folks who are working on this are finding it difficult to convey the desired meaning in the "simplest" terms. wink

Note that "friends and family" are *very different* than "the general public" - DreamHost has no problem with your using the "unlimited" accounts to host friends, clients, family, etc (whether for free, or for "reselling") - what they are tying to prohibit is just turning your resources over to another without control or obligation - like in running your own "webhost" by reselling "unlimited" space. This is a somewhat "common" abuse of our systems by those in some countries from where our it might be difficult for some to legitimately obtain a DreamHost account due to our fraud checks, payment methods, etc.

If it is your client (in the sense that there is real value added, other than just saying, "He's my 'client' because I host his sites"), your friend (in a sense more reasonable than "Everyone is my friend"), or your family member ("If he puts warez up there I'll beat him severely ... and I know where he lives!"), then you are welcome to do that on unlimited accounts.

None of those three scenarios were meant to be included in the definition of "the general public"! smile

--rlparker
--DreamHost Tech Support

Re: Unlimited policy change?

Posted by: zylox
Posted on: 2008-12-31 02:58:00

In reply to:

The only reason it matters is I've got some free time and if they're still taking volunteers to switch over to the new servers, I'd give it a try. It's the "Unlimited" ToS that's been stopping me so far.


I volunteered when they first announced the update and I'm still on an old server. Don't get your hopes up high to be moved very soon.

Jan

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